Friday, April 27, 2012

do NYC subways and buses have both N° AND letters ???

H E L P PLEASE !

Sorry but I%26#39;m a bit confused.

- do all buses have letters ?

- do subway trains have only numbers ?

OR BOTH ???

HOW CAN THEY BE RECOGNIZABLE ?

thanks a lot in advance.....

do NYC subways and buses have both N%26deg; AND letters ???

Buses use both letters and numbers. The letter designates the borough (all buses in Manhattan start with an %26#39;M%26#39;) and the number is the route. So, M14, M101, M98, etc.

Our subway was originally three separate transit companies -- the IND (Independent), IRT (Interborough Rapid Transit) and BMT (Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit). All the routes on the IND and BMT are designated by letters, and the old IRT system uses numbers. But you won%26#39;t see signs for IND, BMT, IND -- in fact, few New Yorkers even remember when they were used.

do NYC subways and buses have both N%26deg; AND letters ???

Bus route designations are a letter and a number, depending on their geography adn main area of travel.

Brooklyn buses: B# (e.g. B63)

Bronx buses: BX # (e.g. Bx1)

Manhattan buses: M# (e.g. M104)

Queens buses: Q# (e.g. Q60)

Staten Island buses: S#

Because buses can travel between boroughs, you may find that a Queens bus also stops in, for example, the Bronx.

Express buses start with an X and go in any borough (e.g.X5)

Subway lines have a single letter or a single number.


The trains of the old IRT system are all numbered - e.g., the #1 train, the #7 to Flushing, and so on. The trains of the old IND and BMT systems all have letters as their names -- the A train, the D train, and so on. The reason there is a difference (and one shown by the name of the line) is that even though all ubway trains run on ';standard gauge'; rails, the CARS of the IRT are two feet narrower than the other cars used in the system. A #7 train can go anywhere on the system, but if it pulls into an IND station -- for example, West 4th Street -- the car will be a foot from the platform. That would not be a good idea! Meanwhile, the IND and BMT trains are interchangeable with each other (for example, the F is an IND in Queens, but becomes a BMT in Brooklyn) but they sinply cannot fit into the IRT stations -- if an F train tried to pull into a station on the Lexington Avenue line, for example, it would rip both sides off the train -- so it does not try!

Trains and buses are recognizable by their signs, of course -- on the front and the side of the train, and on the front of the bus, there will be a very clear designation that the train is the #6 to Brooklyn Bridge, or the #4 to Utica Avenue, or that the bus is the Q28 to Main Street in Flushing.

One would assume that one would look at the sign on any train or bus before boarding it to make sure it is the one you want to take!!!


And before the trains were identified by numbers or letters the last stop on the run was how the train was identified. Since i traveled mainly to the Bronx some designations I remember were East 180th St, 241st and White Plains Road and 242nd and Van Cortland Park. Since I didn%26#39;t travel to Brooklyn or Queens in those days I have no idea as to what they were called when the train ended its run in Brooklyn or Queens The only Brooklyn designation I remember was the Sea Beach Express.


The BMT trains were named for their routes. These included the Sea Beach (now the N), the West End (now the D), the Brighton (now the B), and the Culver (now the F) lines.

I remember from my boyhood (and I have read about it since) that there used to be a complicated system of colored headlights on IRT trains to indicate what train it was, and whether it would run local or express.

It is much easier now just knowing to look for a ';4'; or a ';6'; -- and the exception is the ';diamond'; trains at rush hour, when certain otherwise-local trains (such as the 6) skip stations in the boroughs beyond Manhattan.

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